Comments for The Money Enigma http://www.themoneyenigma.com A New Perspective on Money and Inflation Sun, 03 Apr 2016 00:13:19 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on Price Determination by Mark S. http://www.themoneyenigma.com/price-determination/#comment-2501 Sun, 03 Apr 2016 00:13:19 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?page_id=421#comment-2501 A suggestion…
I love your theory – it explains some mysteries regarding inflation and deflation that weren’t explained with my current understanding.
However, it’s possible it’s missing a small piece. Various Austrian oriented commentators make the point that a trade doesn’t happen unless both parties feel they’re getting BETTER than fair value. This would necessitate yet another dual variable in the theory to fully explain things: each party has an independent assessment of the value of money and also the value of the good.

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Comment on The Fiat Money Experiment: Will the Virtuous Cycle turn Vicious? by Charles De Rose http://www.themoneyenigma.com/the-fiat-money-experiment-will-the-virtuous-cycle-turn-vicious/#comment-2342 Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:27:14 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?p=614#comment-2342 Brilliant work…thank you.

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Comment on Why Do Prices Rise Over Time? by Peter Golovatscheff http://www.themoneyenigma.com/why-do-prices-rise-over-time/#comment-2314 Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:13:11 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?p=608#comment-2314 Thanks for the post, Gervaise! There’s much that I agree with. But I’d like you to clarify a couple of points.

First, if “fiat money is a liability of society and a proportional claim on the future output of society”, then why must the value of these claims decrease when more claims are issued? This might sound like a silly question to you, so I’ll better elaborate. I’d agree with you if there already existed claims on the *total* future output of the society. But I don’t think this is the case. And that’s why I want to argue: The new claims that are issued are against that part of future output which wasn’t yet “claimed”. Of course we cannot in reality divide between future output which there exists claims against and future output which there doesn’t exist claims again, so this is a question to be answered at the aggregate level. Does there exist already claims against all future output of the society?

Secondly, you write: “The price of a good in money terms is a measure of the market value of that good.”. This is no doubt a difficult subject. Nevertheless, I dare to argue that what is measured “in money terms” is the price, not any value. But if you by “market value” mean “market price”, we are in agreement. You are right in that a price needs to be always viewed in relation to other prices. It doesn’t express anything absolute. The (prices of the) goods I buy might be high relative to my salary or relative to prices of identical products offered for sale by other merchants, but not high in themselves.

What do you say? I can see that you have been wrestling with subjects I’ve been wrestling with during the last couple of years, so I’m sure we can learn something from each other.

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Comment on Why Do Currencies Collapse? by themoneyenigma http://www.themoneyenigma.com/why-do-currencies-collapse/#comment-1122 Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:08:39 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?p=331#comment-1122 Vince,

Agree that there can be a positive feedback cycle involved in the decline of fiat currencies (and resultant rise in prices). I guess a few of the questions that I am trying to address are (1) why does fiat money have value in the first place, (2) what determines that value of fiat money, and (3) what triggers a mild decline in a fiat currency such that it leads to 5-10% type inflation versus a collapse in a currency that leads to 50%+ type inflation?

After all, not all declines in currency value lead to “hyperinflation”, e.g. US in the 1970s. If it is as simple as “positive feedback loop” then why didn’t the US experience hyperinflation in 1970s?

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Comment on Why Do Currencies Collapse? by Vince Cate http://www.themoneyenigma.com/why-do-currencies-collapse/#comment-1121 Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:27:02 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?p=331#comment-1121 I think currencies collapse in a positive feedback cycle. It is like an avalanche or forest fire. I can describe it and even model it:

http://howfiatdies.blogspot.com/2014/08/positive-feedback-theory-of.html
http://howfiatdies.blogspot.com/2013/09/hyperinflation-explained-in-many.html
http://howfiatdies.blogspot.com/2013/03/simulating-hyperinflation.html

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Comment on The Risk of Hyperinflation in the United States by themoneyenigma http://www.themoneyenigma.com/the-risk-of-hyperinflation-in-the-united-states/#comment-873 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 01:42:26 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?p=167#comment-873 Hyperinflation doesn’t require high real wages or high savings – look at Zimbabwe. In fact, hyperinflation is most often associated with very poor economies.

Rising velocity of money doesn’t require people to rush out and spend more – this is a myth. The velocity of money rises because the value of each unit of money falls and therefore each unit of money must turn over many more times in order for the same value of transactions to be conducted. You might want to read my post on “What Determines the Velocity of Money?” published 7th April 2015.

The impact of globalisation is definitely putting pressure on the value of goods and labor: this is a clear deflationary trend. However, the price level is a relative expression of both the market value of goods/labor and the market value of money. It may be the case the market value of goods/labor continue to fall, but if the market value of money falls more then inflation will result. If the market value of money collapses, then hyperinflation will be the result even if the market of goods/labor is falling, as we can seen repeatedly in countries like Zimbabwe.

I agree that the inflation statistics are not entirely accurate.

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Comment on The Risk of Hyperinflation in the United States by guy http://www.themoneyenigma.com/the-risk-of-hyperinflation-in-the-united-states/#comment-865 Tue, 07 Jul 2015 15:06:49 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?p=167#comment-865 I suspect the reason we have not seen high inflation in most products is due to the low real wages and low savings rate of the vast majority of people in this country. A large portion of the population is barely getting by, and wouldnt have any money to spend in a hyperinflation scenario even if they wanted to. Thats why the velocity of money is at all time lows and our economy is so dependent on credit- most people dont accumulate savings. The near historical low savings rates confirm this.

The only places where inflation is popping up is in absolute necessities like food and rental prices. Inflation in housing and rent is largely swept under the rug as the owners equivalent isnt an accurate gauge. Until there is a large increase in wages, I doubt this trend will reverse unless interest rates normalize or a currency default occurs. As most companies are still in survival mode, they will continue to cut wages and jobs whenever possible. The big push for expanding immigration and offshoring jobs via the TPP don’t bode well for domestic labor.

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Comment on The Risk of Hyperinflation in the United States by themoneyenigma http://www.themoneyenigma.com/the-risk-of-hyperinflation-in-the-united-states/#comment-582 Sun, 21 Jun 2015 06:58:56 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?p=167#comment-582 Andrew, if the economy is weak, then that will put pressure on the market value of goods. But, the price level is a ratio of two market values: the market value of goods divided by the market value of money. The market value of goods is the numerator. The market value of money is the denominator. If the market value of money falls by more than the market value of goods (in percentage terms), then the price will rise, even though the market value of goods (the numerator) has fallen.

So, why might the market value of money fall in the economy is weak. Well, money is a proportional claim on the future output of society. A weak economy may erode confidence in the long-term economic prospects of society. If this happens, then the market value of money falls: people expect less future output and more base money.

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Comment on The Risk of Hyperinflation in the United States by Andrew Wurtis http://www.themoneyenigma.com/the-risk-of-hyperinflation-in-the-united-states/#comment-549 Fri, 19 Jun 2015 01:29:32 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?p=167#comment-549 If the economy is weak isn’t that deflationary? Frms sell goods at dicount?

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Comment on Price Determination in a Barter Economy by Daniel Goldman http://www.themoneyenigma.com/price-determination-in-a-barter-economy/#comment-202 Sat, 25 Apr 2015 16:20:53 +0000 http://www.themoneyenigma.com/?p=132#comment-202 It seems that the question actually becomes even more complicated than this discussion lets on, and is probably one reason why economists do not want to even begin to consider this idea of “coupling”. In a market with only two goods or services being exchanged, the coupling is simple. If we add oranges to the market, and people are willing to exchange oranges and apples as well as apples and bananas then we have to take into account all three supply and demand sets. Then in the case of a common medium of exchange, every resource becomes coupled. This does of course logically appear to be the case, but it seems to make analysis of prices exponentially more difficult.

Of course, it’s also possible that I completely misunderstood the analysis presented here.

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